One of the first nights in NY Dave and I found a place called the National Underground. It was a small, cozy, red pub. Two bands were playing, the Madison Square Gardeners and Kevn Kinney . It was a jolly good time! The music was great and we won, as a door prize, a flask that looks like a mini gas can. We befriended the father of the lead singer in the MSG (ha ha MSG!), a lovely, enthusiastic man, interested in talking to us about film and writing.